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Kentucky senate passes bill granting right to collect child support for fetuses

www.theguardian.com Kentucky senate passes bill granting right to collect child support for fetuses

Measure allows parent to seek child support up to a year after giving birth to retroactively cover pregnancy expenses

Measure allows parent to seek child support up to a year after giving birth to retroactively cover pregnancy expenses

The Republican-led Kentucky senate voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to grant the right to collect child support for fetuses, advancing a bill that garnered bipartisan support despite nationwide fallout from a controversial Alabama decision also advancing “fetal personhood”.

The measure would allow a parent to seek child support up to a year after giving birth to retroactively cover pregnancy expenses. The legislation – Senate Bill 110 – won senate passage on a 36-2 vote with little discussion to advance to the House. Republicans have supermajorities in both chambers.

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Any young buck reading this: If you have insurance, they'll usually cover vascectomy with a minimal co-pay. Do it. Contact your doctor, your insurance company, figure it out and do it. Yeah, it's a little weird having someone shave your junk, and you're achy for a few days after, but think about it. A lifetime of less stress and more money. Just do it. You'll thank me in your dotage.
- I didn’t even have a co pay for mine.
  
  Same. The whole thing was covered by insurance.
  
  I think my co-pay was $20.
- There are still people, that want to have kids at some point.
  
  Fortunately, most vasectomies are reversible.
  
  Yes, and gunshots to head only kill 92% of the time.
  Pregnancy is only possible 50% of the time after reversible
  So I ask, are ya feeling lucky... (Punk?)
  
  Imagine the gall to look around at this world and be so blinded by, I don't know, narcissism, self-centeredness, hubris and think,"Yeah, what we need here is another fucking human."
  
  Strongly disagree. Your position is that the current age-bearing demographic forego the experience of having children?
  I don't think this is sarcasm but maybe I'm eating the onion?
  
  I forgot the name of the movement but some people think it's abuse to have children. Mind you this was years before COVID and the current wars, maybe someone else remembers them.
  
  Do you recall American sentiment on China's 35 year long One Child Policy?
  
  Most of the Americans I knew understood the reasoning behind it, but didn't like the Chinese bullshit of killing off a female child so that they could have a male.
  
  No civilized and intelligent being should enjoy bearing offspring as we currently do, anyway.
  If the instinct alone is enough to overcome their reasoning, then they are not truly mature.
  
  I think there's likely some zeitgeist in play here that younger generations know they can't afford kids. And I also imagine there's animosity there. While having kids isn't a prerequisite for personal joy (to each their own) it's often a tremendously enjoyable experience. So who should they turn to for being put in this situation: the generation that should really skip having kids, sorry....
  Now, when I walk around stores on my day off and see homeschoolers with 5 kids I can agree with this sentiment: that feels stupidly selfish and excessive.
  
  Wow, I can u derstand some people might not want kids, but self-centeredness? It’s self- e entered to devote so much of your ti e and attention to someone else’s needs, for two decades of your life?
  
  You're not having a kid for the kid's sake. You're having to kid for your sake. Your self-centered sake. Not YOU, but like the general you.
  
  Everybody, get a load of this take!
  
  The world is better now than at any point previously in history (except maybe the 90s). The only reason things sound worse is that we have global news now.
  What point is there in trying to make a better future if none of us have kids? Who are we trying to fix climate change for, our geriatric asses?
  Kids are emblematic of hope for a better future -- that society can build and create something that we won't benefit from, but our descendants will. I'd go as far as to say they should be the mascot of leftism and progressives. Everything we do should be to give them a better world than we had. It's all moot otherwise.
  
  How is this down voted? You hit the nail on the head.
- I second this. This is good life advice for pretty much any guy out there right now.
- Shave it yourself before the appt
  
  They still have to shave it again at the doctor. My mom said she wished people wouldn't pre-shave surgical sites (she's a nurse, not just a weirdo offering to shave people for fun).
  ETA: If your doctor tells you to shave before a procedure, do it. It's probably just a good bet in general to always follow whatever pre-op instructions you get from your specific provider because every doctor is different.
  
  Fuck my doctor. He didn't mention prepping the area, so I didn't shave, figured they'd take care of it. Nope. Didn't shave, just cut then applied glue to my sack.
  The glue on my hairy sack was the worst part of the whole experience, and it lasted for 2 weeks. I left feedback but it works have been a much better experience of they'd just told me to shave.
  
  Holy shit. Apparently a lot of places don't do it there and will tell people to do it themselves a couple days before (not sure if it's practice to practice, doctor's preference, or what) but I've never heard of anyone just doing a vasectomy on hairy skin. That suuuucks.
  
  Why shouldn't we?
  
  She said it just makes the skin more irritated because they have to go over it make sure there's no stubble, missed spots, etc, and shaving over freshly shaved skin is just kind of harsh. Especially in sensitive areas.
  
  Mine told me not to. Had a decent looking nurse take care of it beforehand. It was an odd, but not terrible experience.
  
  Why would you feel the need to comment on the nurse's appearance ??
  
  BECAUSE PRETTY PEOPLE UNSETTLE ME WHILE THEY'RE SHAVING MY BALLS!
  
  You ever had an ugly nurse shave your balls? Listen, this is a big deal.
  
  I get it. My ass doctor is one of the prettiest people I have ever seen. The day she had to check for hemorrhoids inside me, she was being shadowed by a young doctor, also one of the prettiest women I have ever seen.
  I think everybody gets a bit uncomfortable when a pretty person sees intimate parts of us in ways we have never seen ourselves.
  I don't think we should shame men for discussing their experiences in the medical world. It is already hard enough to get men into the doctor in the first place, and I think most women also have experienced being in the position of finding doctors attractive and that making the experience more uncomfortable.
  
  It's a sanitary thing
- It's also not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Once I told the Dr to stop telling me what he was doing down there and talk about movies or some shit it was no big deal. Best investment I've ever made.

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