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Bulletins and News Discussion for February 19th to February 25th, 2023 - The Shadow of Suharto - COTW: Indonesia

Image is of Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia and the fastest sinking city in the world. A new capital is being built elsewhere in Indonesia.


I was going to make Indonesia the COTW anyway (unless something really massive happened somewhere else) due to the elections that might really designate the end of an era in Indonesian politics. Michael Roberts wrote up a big piece on Indonesia about a week ago, one day before the election began, so a lot of this information is coming from him.


Indonesia has been ruled by President Joko Widodo for 10 years, but is now barred from a third term constitutionally. Under his presidency, the Indonesian economy has seen fairly good GDP growth overall - about 5% per year, or an average of 4% per capita - and is broadly popular with the electorate. The biggest problems are the common ones, such as a lack of jobs and a high cost of living. Widodo's successors have naturally promised more jobs and an economic plan that clearly draws at least some inspiration from China's rise from the periphery to the heights of the world economy and manufacturing, but this seems pretty unlikely for Indonesia because, well, Indonesia is ruled by capitalist bourgeoisie parties and China is not. Indonesia's main gigs are palm oil, nickel ore, and oil, with internal manufacturing of these primary commodities only slowly growing and reliant on foreign labour.

Indonesia has a rather big employment problem. On the face of it, things don't seem bad, with an unemployment rate of only 5% - but this is only because it counts anybody who works even a couple hours per week. 60% of the workers in Indonesia are in the informal sector, with no real labour rights, sick pay, or guaranteed wages. And half of the ~8 million unemployed are young people. Indonesia is the sixth most unequal country on the planet, with at least 36% of the population in poverty, and the four richest men own as much as the bottom 100 million. This was a natural consequence of the policies of the dictator Suharto, who came to power in a coup overthrowing the communist nationalist leader Sukarno and killing one million communists, a period covered by Bevin's The Jakarta Method. At a fundamental level, not that much has changed since Suharto, and the country seems doomed to a path of slowing economic growth and massive amounts of environmental degradation under a plundering elite who will presumably fly off to New Zealand with the rest of them once the seas swallow the country, unless a communist movement can be rebuilt from ashes and can learn the lessons of 1965-66.

Though results have yet to be officially announced, it seems that 72-year-old Prabowo Subianto is overwhelmingly likely to have handily won the election. Once banned from the United States for human rights violations - a truly phenomenal feat - he has been the Minister of Defense since 2019, was an army lieutenant under Suharto and was his son-in-law. While this is obviously a particularly bad outcome, none of the other candidates seemed likely to fundamentally alter the trajectory of Indonesia, so the game was rigged from the start.


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  • Bro you're Arab too, you know perfectly well we're ruled by weaklings and fools

    • Gadaffi and Assad aren't weak or fools. Gadaffi was destroyed by western air power and being too trusting of the West, but to be fair to him only the Kim family holds the adequate level of contempt for the West that a world leader should rationally have it's a common mistake. They're more saavy men then you because they recognize an enemy when they see it at least, whereas you call them "progressive" and make apologetics for them. The "type" that filled the streets in Libya was no progressive proletarian force.

      • Gadaffi and Assad aren't weak or fools. Gadaffi was destroyed by western air power and being too trusting of the West

        So literally Gaddafi was weak and foolish, you don't see Hamas, Ansarallah or Hezbollah being destroyed by air power or trusting the west, despite the fact Gaddafi had far more resources than all of them

        The "type" that filled the streets in Libya was no progressive proletarian force.

        But the "type" that filled the streets of Egypt, Bahrain, Morocco, Jordan, Tunisia were, which has been my whole point

        • Not in Egypt dude, are you not listening to me? In Cairo it was jihadist fascists terrorizing people like me. Get out of your fucking 2010 radlib narrative and listen to the communist who directly experienced this telling you the truth. I don't know how to be more clear, the people outside were waving guns around, making women put on burkas, taking all of our shit. LISTEN TO ME. THIS IS WHAT WORKING CLASS PEOPLE EXPERIENCED IN EGYPT. Chaos, rioting, then this. When was the exciting part? I was scared as shit the whole time.

          Gadaffi made the same mistake that every world leader outside of the Kim family did, trusted the perfidious anglos more than they ought to have. Doesn't make him a fool or weak, he was one of the best leaders in Middle Eastern history. What happened in Libya was reactionary and it was done TO LIBYA. It was not organic. It was pushed by imperialist capital and I take great offense at any westerner scoffing and calling him weak and pathetic. Seriously fuck off with that shit.

          Existing as a state with a somewhat planned economy is much different than existing as a war machine distributed cell network of militias like Hezbollah or Hamas. Gadaffi didn't have "more resources" he was spread more thin, and had to do things like protect dams, power stations, universities, libraries, hospitals, etc. to maintain legitimacy and had to maintain a standing army and bureaucracy. You're not comparing apples to apples here.

          • Sorry that happened to you in your neighborhood, but I literally know a score Egyptian communists who had the opposite experience particularly in Tahir square, I'm not gonna discount yours or their experiences

            Like I already said, EVERYONE was involved that includes reactionaries but more importantly also the working class and its a disservice to discount the working class struggles that were raging in those early months even if opportunism abounded

            • By their fruits you shall know them. Non-proletarian reactionary class movements result in rotten fruits. We see a bunch of rotten fruit (The protests culminating in the dominance of the Muslim Brotherhood then Sisi in Egypt, the protests culminating in the overthrow of Gadaffi and destruction of the Libyan nation, the protests culminating in the attempted overthrow of Assad and destruction of the Syrian nation...) This had the exact same "revolutionary potential" as the Hong Kong protests or the Mahsa Amini protests recently in Iran, zlich. Nada. This wasn't limited to my "neighborhood" it was a group in the coalition that controlled the city and regional government eventually before Sisi came in, people I knew from all over the city experienced the same.

              The first couple days/weeks there was chaos and just general lumpen rioting giving cover for islamists to coalesce and organize. This is the part you're glamorizing. Then the organized islamists systematically started taking control of territory (like our apartment complex). Stop me when this gets "progressive". If you're opining that there wasn't an organized left to take advantage of the crisis, I agree. When you don't have an organized left with popular tie-ins to the people it's too early to attempt any type of "revolution" or exploiting an imperialist caused crisis to push for demands. Thus, any effort in "toppling" the governments at that exact moment by leftists was extremely short-sighted and ended up serving reaction, an error that should be learned from and not repeated.

              Any Egyptian communist could have told you we were weak and not ready whatsoever for any type of class war at that time, not ready to be a major force or faction.

              This all started from me saying the self immolation is not a particularly useful tactic for us as communists, and the example of sparking off riots at a bad time in what ended up being a reactionary movement in the end doesn't really prove otherwise.

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