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Plus the fact that Jesus wasn’t a real person, but a complete fabrication.
I go with Hitchens' take; the ridiculous census that's shoehorned in seems like an effort to reconcile a real person with the prophecies. Jesus was likely a real person whose life has been exaggerated and built upon to the point of legend.
I’ll post this twice to address different replies.
https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF
Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.
I do believe there are historical records of jesus of Nazareth.
The whole religious thing is separate.
Not trying to pick a fight, but can you point to these records?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
Here is the wiki link to other’s attempts.
I tried to check some citations, but they only the books that I am not willing to buy because I’m just not that into the proof either way.
I feel like this supports my mild amount of support.
I can not unfortunately.
That’s why I led with I believe, I just remember hearing about it.
Let me finish my coffee and get woke up and I will try to do some poking around. :)
Don’t sweat it. Watch (or listen to) the link I posted and then consider.
Ima be real.
I barely cared about this to make a 30 second google search.
There is the slightest possibility that I would have clicked a 5 minute video, with an interesting thumbnail, and watched it if the person was interesting in the first 30 seconds, and that is where the possibilities end.
I spent more than 5 minutes trying to nail just the right amount of snark and sass vs funny vs respectfulness in this comment.
All good. The guy is an academic who researched as many resources from the time as he could, for his phd. He says there’s no actual evidence for a real person called Jesus. Even the ‘disciples’ admit in their writing that it’s made up.
I’ll post this twice to address different replies.
https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF
Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.
Yes I’ve just read the Wikipedia link you’ve posted but it doesn’t actually point to non-religious sources. All these things are like the Spider-Man meme.
AFAIK there are no Roman administration records of Pontius Pilate executing sone dude called Jesus.
It’s all made up later on.