Putin's suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by United States, sources say
Putin's suggestion of Ukraine ceasefire rejected by United States, sources say
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So possible options as I see them:
- Biden's USA is stubborn and nihilistic and just wants to kill as many Ukrainians and Russians as possible before Trump comes in and forces Ukraine to accept a treaty
- USA (and Ukraine) knows that Putin hasn't changed its demands at all so any talks are pointless
- USA (and Ukraine) knows that Russia is losing and doesn't want to negotiate
- Biden forgot how to use a phone and is too embarrased to ask
I'm personally going with 2 with a sprinkle of 4 and 1. In my happy dreams, 3.
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Why are so many people here from Lemmy.ml and Hexbear assuming Putin and Russia offered an amicable ceasefire? When has Putin EVER shown he would ever want such a thing?
You people have worms in your brains.
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Why does Russia feel the need to defend itself from this?
Should they just give in to US hegemony like Europe did?
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Why would Russia change its demands? It's winning. If the other side is winning, you want to negotiate because the terms will only get worse.
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Winning? By whose metric lol
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It's propaganda. There are communist extremists in this thread trying to convince everyone the US is evil and using Ukraine as a bargaining chip.
I don't even disagree that the US has done, and will continue to do evil stuff... But this isn't one of those times.
The US is refusing to deal in back channels with Russia, and are insisting Ukraine be involved. From the article:
A U.S. official, speaking in Washington on condition of anonymity, said that the U.S. has not engaged in any back channel discussions with Russia and that Washington had been consistent in not going behind the back of Ukraine.
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Why would a communist parrot the propaganda of a right wing oligarchy invading another country?
Oh right, hexbear.
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That would imply that Ukraine and USA should be asking for negotiations.
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That's right, they should be. They aren't doing so because it's in the interest of the U.S. to continue the war, and the Ukrainian government more or less exists at the pleasure of the U.S.
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The one thing that the Liberals have decided to take a stand on, "Russia Bad!", to the point that they'll keep the war machine churning through Ukranian bodies until its some other administration's responsibility to turn off the US money spigot. Then they'll squeal about it being a Putin Puppet's doing or some shit.
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