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Is there something you lack in Wayland but have in xorg?

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Nvidia drivers continue to work great under X 2003-2024 for me. I'm sure Nvidia will work well under Wayland long before I bother to switch. The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware and many have spent years lying about Wayland being totally ready in 2015-2022 after they spent years lying about AMD GPU drivers being great in 2008-2013 when both were largely unusable in that time frame. Since few of the haters actually own any Nvidia hardware I presume they get their information from stroking each-others ego on reddit/lemmy/mastodon.
- Yeah but X11 is unsuitable for modern computing.
  The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware
  Many do... because they know Nvidia is plagued with issues. Why would they buy hardware they've had/will have issues with?
  I had to get rid of my 1080 Ti because of how unusably bad the Linux drivers were. AMD has ran great, out of the box, on X11 and Wayland. Wayland has been great, used it for years with no issues outside of with Nvidia hardware.
  Maybe when Nvidia gets their shit together and have drivers that work properly ill give them another go.
  
  I have a 1080. The drivers are great under X. I've been using nvidia hardware since 2003. Driver support has always been pretty good.
  
  But their driver support isn't good, as is widely reported.
  Even by the guy who literally created the kernel.
  
  Linus didn't say they didn't work he doesn't like their failure to play nice with others. You can't use that cop out.
  
  Maintaining good Linux drivers for something like a graphics card very much requires work with others.
  It's a big reason for why Nvidia's drivers are pretty crappy.
  Calling it a cop out sounds like major cope. Nvidia drivers on Linux are crappy. There's a reason everybody complains about them.
  
  Nvidia's drivers for X have always been very good. Their drivers for wayland will be good before Wayland is
  
  Wayland has been good for years.
  Nvidia needs to fix their trash drivers, they're complete dog shit.
  
  It's now getting to the port where its sort of fully functional. In several more years maybe we'll be to the point where users don't need to learn about the plumbing like X was 14 years ago.
  
  X will never be fully functional, though. It's been abandoned
  
  Fully functional: Performing all required functions. X is fully functional now. It was fully functional in 2003. It will be fully functional in 2032. It's feature complete and receiving security updates as recently as 30 days ago and is liable to receive them as long as Canonical and Red Hat have supported customers using this or around 10 years from Ubuntu 22.04 and RHEL 9.
  Wayland proponents having failed to convert people to using Wayland by version of superior functionality have no resorted to claiming the technology used by 60% of users either doesn't work or will stop working real soon now.
  https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_display_server&period=-2
  Narrator Voice: It will keep working for 8-10 years and most people have no compelling reason to switch immediately.
- Nail on the head.
  
  Lol

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