1y ago

Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice

luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for....literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??

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OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?
Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it's easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.
- Most TV's don't list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?
  
  I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.
  And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I'd double check where the stands sit exactly, because it's not a design problem but a you problem.
  People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on "bad design". It's the most common sense design that will work in most cases.
  Next you'll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV's that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.
  
  Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn't have the foot width listed on the box.
  
  I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn't list the stand width. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141
  A number of other budget TV brands I checked don't have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/ref=sr_1_
  
  That's been my experience. It's weird seeing people get so angry at op over the assumption that op ignored fundamental information that is so often omitted by the manufacturers.
  
  Exactly my thought. Makes this place seem toxic as fuck.
  
  This is the most controversial post on Lemmy 4 months later.
  
  Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn't have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.
  TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.
  Can't wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.
  I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it's width is half my desk. It doesn't help that some stores and manufacturers don't have a standardized list either.
- People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards
  
  This is not bad design, it's just common sense.
  People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
  
  People very upset that a company which exists to make money has used the cheaper option for the part of a TV that 80% of buyers will leave in the box anyway.
  I saw a comment suggesting that it must only be $5 to add a proper stand. TCL made 30million TVs last year so that's a substantial bonus for whoever made that choice.
  Breaking news! Budget TV has budget parts!
- "weight distribution"... They weight practically nothing, and even old heavy ass CRTs sat on narrow platform mounts
  
  Well I guess they just so it to annoy people then. There's no other reasons why they'd do this right?
  
  Cost cutting. When huge TVs only cost a few hundred dollars and everything else has gotten super expensive, they have to cut corners
  
  Why is it cutting corners though?
  Ideally you'd have the option for both a central stand and the two sides in the one box, but then that's being wasteful and bad for the environment.
  There really isn't a good option here. In that case I'd say it's on the consumer to figure out beforehand what the stand is and decide whether they like it or not, not on the company to magically know what stand the consumer needs.
  Many companies do shitty things but this stand issue really is a non-issue.
  
  Make center stands great again
  
  Yes and then we can have other mildly infuriating posts about this from the other side - why does my TV have a shitty central stand when it could just have two stands on the side? Clearly bad design.
  
  Nobody ever complained about center stands
- I have the same TV and built a custom stand for it. Doesn't change the fact that the included stand is a bad design.
  
  I disagree that it is bad design. It's cheap and I also find it ugly, but it does get the job done just fine.
  
  This is not bad design, it's just common sense.
  People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
  
  Do you actually own the TV or one with that same stand? 3/3 people I know, plus OP had to do something extra to make that stand work. That's bad design. Maybe not for the bottom line of the company, but definitely for the customer.
  Functionally the stand is garbage too even if you do have a massive surface. It's not at all adjustable and it can easily damage your table if it shifts at all.
  But I guess, expecting a product to work out of the box without third party add-ons like a VESA stand or needing to cut grooves in a wooden block to keep it from toppling over is "entitled" now.
  
  You're using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.
  This is a fairly basic TV stand design. If you honestly know 4 people who've struggled with this then I'm not sure what to tell you. Personally I've never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it's pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn't fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it's fine.
  So yeah, I do think it's entitled that people expect every TV manufactured to magically work on their specific table, and if it doesn't it's badly designed. Put another way, why don't you look up some reviews of this TV and see how many people rate it highly vs complain about the stand? When I looked at similar designs they were very highly rated, so at least for the majority of people it's well designed and acknowledging you cannot have a single design that works for everyone.
  OP in his post said he saw it in person so they even knew what they were buying and could easily measure it. I don't know how they can honestly go back and say it's badly designed and doesn't fit their table when they literally saw how it was designed and could have easily measured it out if they chose to.
  
  Personally I've never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it's pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn't fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it's fine.
  You're using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.
- well good thing they're a professional company with professional engineers, glad they're taking the easy route
  i bought it because i was at the store and thought 'damn a bedroom tv would be nice' and it was black friday. it's only 32" i hope it fits on the table, and if not i can rig something up, but either way, god fucking dammit these new legs are terrible design because now i have to think about this instead of them just having a damn stand in the center like everyone used to
  was sort of what i was thinking
  
  So take it back? If you put it back in the packaging and said "hey, this doesn't fit where I want it", they should take it back. I've never dealt with a store that wouldn't.
  I could see this if you ordered it online, sight unseen. Like, if the website were text-based and had no pictures and the description was "It's a TV". But you were at a physical store...
  
  He knew the dimensions of the place where the TV was supposed to go.
  He went to the store, saw the TV, he saw the box with a picture of it.
  So he brought it home, unpacked it, placed it where it was obviously not going to be able to go.
  Then he plugged it in and turned it on.
  And instead of just putting it back in its packaging and bringing it back to the store and admit defeat. Or order a new piece of furniture Amazkea.
  He instead went on here to fucking complain.
  
  They gambled on an eyeball measurement from memory and lost. It's not that deep.
  They don't need to return it because it can still be mounted on a stand or wall. And maybe they want to watch crooked Netflix in the meantime.
  ...And they complained on mildly infuriating, which seems appropriate because it's not that big of a deal.
  
  All he needs is a small piece of plywood for $5 to fix this.
  
  Actually it’s been a design standard for a long time for screens to have a single pedestal support in the center. It’s reasonable for OP to buy a TV without checking because until recently these side legs wouldn’t have existed.
  
  Both me and my flatmate got new TVs to replace our decade+ old ones. Cannot find a single 40+ inch TV within our price ranges that comes with a center stand, it's all feet. It's a shame, we liked having our TVs sitting next to each other in the living room to play pseudosplitscreen video games, but now they don't fit.
  
  Have you considered buying one with feet and spending $30 on a vesa stand to solve the issue?
  
  Before this thread, I'd never heard of them, but I fully plan on buying two of them within the next week
  
  Nice :)
  
  Feels like everyone is taking this a little too seriously for something mildy infuriating.
  Surely, op is capable of solving this minor issue, which is why they rolled the dice that it might fit.
  
  $18 on Amazon, more adjustable than any stand that could possibly be included in the box:
  https://www.amazon.com/Articulating-Extension-Rotation-200x200mm-Pipishell/dp/B07SHFPD8S
  
  This would involve successfully finding a wall stud to install on and the use of power tools. With the information OP has revealed about themselves, that seems like a recipe for a broken TV and half a wall ripped out or a trip to the ER. Of course it will be the fault of the drill manufacturer and they might sue.
  
  Then you should stop thinking

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