Will libs have a collective realization about Ukraine like they did with Iraq or will they stay stubborn in it forever?
I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.
also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.
We shall see. Libs at the time of the invasion of Iraq worked overtime to convince us all of the reasonable nuances and all the human rights reasons we had to invade. At the time it was unthinkable to publicly denounce the war unless you were a random nobody, Dixie Chicks basically had a fatwa imposed against them by Bush for a light criticism. Jon Stewart on the daily show only got away with criticisms as a jester and only things like “our troops don’t even have adequate body armor and the humvees aren’t safe enough”