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  • that doesn't seem to contradict anything from my comments.

    what do you mean?

    • You clearly didn't watch it, I listened to the podcasts and came to the same conclusion as Babs and Hestia. The sources I linked are citizens that are clearly stating there is no cultural genocide.

      • I did watch part of it, but none of it seems relevant to my comments.

        I have no problem with people's beliefs.

        I like holistic, contextual facts, but I don't really care if others don't.

        • Is holistic, contextual facts a term that means "unsourced podcasts and anecdotes"?

        • I presented multiple sources that are holistic and contextual, in fact they are of the same nature as yours except they include last names and city where they live in addition to being a video format that directly state there is no cultural genocide. If my sources are based in belief and as such not valid, then so are yours.

          Then I would point you to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Resolutions on Muslim Communities and Muslim Minorities in the non-OIC Member States in 2019 which: Welcomes the outcomes of the visit conducted by the General Secretariat's delegation upon invitation from the People's Republic of China; commends the efforts of the People's Republic of China in providing care to its Muslim citizens; and looks forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People's Republic of China.

          https://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4447&refID=1250

          as well as the letter, over 50+ UN member states (mostly Muslim-majority nations) signed (A/HRC/41/G/17) https://undocs.org/Home/Mobile?FinalSymbol=A%2FHRC%2F41%2FG%2F17) to the UN Human Rights Commission approving of the de-radicalization efforts in Xinjiang:

          ...separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization.

          We appreciate Chinaโ€™s commitment to openness and transparency. China has invited a number of diplomats, international organizations officials and journalist to Xinjiang to witness the progress of the human rights cause and the outcomes of counter-terrorism and deradicalization there. What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media. We call on relevant countries to refrain from employing unfounded charges against China based on unconfirmed information before they visit Xinjiang.

          These are holistic and contextual facts from a non anecdotal source. Will you actually engage with the arguement instead performing strawman, no true scotsman, and motte & bailey fallacies?

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