Stop dividing the left!

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Anarchy is not left in the US unless they’ve all of a sudden come around on social programs.
- As an Anarcho-Syndicalist we dont support government owned social programs because we prefer community based and worker ran solutions to issues like housing, food, and education. Furthermore most social ills that exist today are a direct or indirect effect of capitalism, the problems that cannot be solved by simply destroying capitalism can be solved with more syndicates.
  
  I generally agree with most of what you said, I’m not super familiar with anarcho-syndicalism But I am trying to have a genuine conversation
  So reading this I’m like yes, yes, ok, love it
  Then you say “furthermore most social ills that exist today…”
  I immediately thought, ok but the practical ills that exist today? Is anarchno-syndicatism also against or at least neutral I suppose, world trade? I ask because I had a bilateral lung transplant, and when I consider the level of social support beyond just financial but also that too and access to medical services, this means supplies, well educated doctors, nurses and surgeons, facilities capable of a bilateral lung transplant, medications which are manufactured all over the world, the need is very high, it feels like this particular perspective would leave a person like me high and dry? At what point do we make the call that community support is enough and how do we define community? Those are all very critical questions for someone like me, and many other disabled people. I guess I wonder, although I agreed a lot with your comment is arachno-syndicatism abelist? Could this ideology ever result in successfully running a world class hospital?
  
  I'll adress all your questions and concerns:
  What is the Anarcho-Syndicalist view on world trade? While we support local communities we also explicitly dont believe in the concept of borders. Furthermore international syndicates are used under Anarcho-Syndicalism to facilitate trade and cooperation.
  Is Anarcho-Syndicalism ablest? Absolutely not, while we talk a lot about workers we belive eveyone has the right to life, freedom, housing, and bread. Even those who cannot work still recive support, those who require additional assistance would be given by mutal aid organizations and community effort.
  How does Anarcho-Syndicalism define community? A local collection of workers who look out for eachother through mutal aid
  Can Anarcho-Syndicalism build advanced medical infrastructure? Absolutely, if anything medical advancements would be greater. Medical students wouldn't have to worry about being shackled to crippling debt, insurance companies wouldn't be able to extort people, no profit incentive and no patents would insure the prices for medical technology remains low, and hospitals would generally speaking recive more funding.
  
  I only intend to come across as ignorant (vice malicious) but what is a community/worker run organization of aid and coordination if not a government (at a small scale)?
  
  Its not a government, it's mutual aid. The goal isnt to increase numbers on a chart, its neighbors helping eachother.
  
  This is why I love lemmy.
  I get all angry on someone's comment, and someone else has already made my point, and better. We're even doing mutual aid in comments!
  
  Sharing information is the greatest form of mutual aid :3
- Welfare capitalism is not the left; it’s the leftmost part of the right. The left is socialism. Anarchists are socialists. Liberals are not.
  
  The American Libertarian sects tend to loosely regard themselves as anarchist, which is frustrating as all hell.
  Anarcho-capitalism is opportunistic enough to co-opt anything.
  
  Anarcho-capitalism is such an oxymoron too, capitalism is inherently an unjust hierarchy
  
  capitalism itself does that pretty well
- come around on social programs.
  Wat.
  Anarchists are the ones who are consistently making social programs from scratch. Direct action is and has always been about feeding people as well as sabotaging bulldozers.
  https://foodnotbombs.net/new_site/
  
  i think they’re conflating anarchists with "anarcho"-capitalists
  
  "Anarcho"-Capitalists are as Anarchist as Capitalist-"Libertarians" are acturally Libertarian
  
  Yup, mutal aid and communal efforts are the cornerstones of real anarchism.

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