2d ago

Social identity is a helluva drug

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And they can also continue to blame Biden.
- Biden is also a tool of neoliberalism and class warfare. The fact that we sit here understanding that Trump voters will "endure suffering" for fascism should tell us something. It is because a vast majority of people in this country are fed up with neoliberalism that has existed since Reagan.
  One side of the country has moved to the left and found actual answers that explain the alienation that they feel and the reason for their frustration. That reason is class conflict and worker exploitation. (This is sadly a small amount of people)
  Another side of the country has been fooled by fascism and xenophobia. These are the Trump supporters.
  And then we have the "middle" that is a minority in this country that is continue to defend neoliberalism. This is the democratic party and it's loyal "vote Blue no matter who" block. These are often the people comfortable enough still to not feel frustration, that do not actually feel the economic impact.
  Sadly that minority that is still holding strong to neoliberalism and the status quo is heavily preventing the country from learning actual leftist ideals.
  No one wants the status quo and neoliberalism. So the average American is leaning right for "something else" because the Democratic party is offering them nothing but the status quo and weak policies.
  The Democrats inability to evolve to a leftist populist message, under Sanders, is a very important part of understanding why people voted for Trump twice. They gave the Democrats one last chance under Biden and felt no material improvement to their lives.
  It's why they will blame Biden and hold onto this "change" in Trump. They will gladly suffer under something different than to suffer slightly less under the same system that has caused their struggles and alienation.
  
  Unfortunately for us the only party that is somewhat normal is the dems and like you said they’re stooges for the capitalist class. I see no way out of this. I believe the dems are controlled opposition at this point. They would rather defend the status quo than fight for economic mobility. Bernie was right the whole time. While the republicans were cleaning house for MAGA, dems were eliminating all internal opposition. We need to do the same here on the left if the Democratic Party is to be saved.
  
  People are way too focused on change at the federal level. You need to start small and local, building groups that can create the grassroots support actual leaders will need to get elected.
  Start with your cities and counties and work your way up.
- Yes, this is all they will do.
  Shun them. Trump supporters are evil, try and avoid working for them or with them in any way. Don't talk to them. There is no need to be friendly. These people are actually supporting a Nazi revival.
  
  Great Trump will be celebrating our withdrawal from our neighbors all day. The best thing that can happen to him is for us to keep yelling "you're evil" at half the country. It just reinforces his position with every cry of hate.
  Are there some actual ideological Nazis following Trump? Of course. But the vast majority is just sick and tired of the status quo that does nothing for them. And as a result they got taken in by a huckster politician.
  You write of half the country a just basically evil by nature and you're playing his game for him.
  
  That's what I'm saying but my wife says I still gotta go to her dad's house with her.
  I really, really, have no interest in talking to that man. She shouldn't either. He was a shit human before Trump was president and he'll be a shit human long after. Half his kids (none of her full siblings, just her half- and step- siblings...her moms side is like some of the best people I've met and my MIL is probably the nicest lady in the world) are equally shitty, as are half his grandkids.
  I mean hell, she gave up Target because of DEI, and she visits Target far more often.
  Aitah?
  
  One thing that worked with my partner was asking them if they had a racist or a mean relative and asking them how they felt spending time around them when they were kids.
  We haven't talked to his parents since November and he says he ain't missing them at all.
  Toxic-ass motherfuckers.
  
  Seriously? Put on your big boy pants and say no.

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