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  • For such a useful website, it's apparently not accessible over Tor.

    I noticed that about "The Militant" (the Socialist Worker's Party main web site). I'm not especially on board with the SWP, but it seems like a strange decision in both cases given their target audience, right?

    • Yes.

      Reminds me of the “anarchist” magazine that launched in my old city where you had to pay 30 bucks a month to access it online, and it was for profit…

      It quickly died out, as expected.

    • Yep, I actually subscribe to their newspaper as well and receive a printed version every week.

      The thing is, they're such a small group that they don’t really have the resources to develop a stronger, more secure web presence. I’ve reached out to them about expanding their role online and even started a Mastodon account for them, but they just don’t seem interested in focusing on that.

      That said, I still admire what they do with unions and how they stand against the mainstream.

      As you know, I voted for their candidate, Rachele Fruit, for president.

      I’m a big fan of the SWP and even moderate their community on some instances.

      • Since you've popped up, evading my attempts to block you on some of your other accounts, I might as well ask a question. How did you square supporting a candidate who is so openly pro-Israel, including in their current operation in Gaza? It takes some special level of... something, for them to manage to be quite a bit worse than even the Democratic candidate on the issue and still be asking for the leftist vote.

        • I'm happy to answer any questions you have, but I need to point out that I haven't "evaded" anything. I simply use different names on other instances.

          As you have seen, and sometimes been a part of, there are groups of people that regularly try to get me banned from whatever instance I show up on. But luckily, admins are seeing how weird and witch-hunty that is and are not instance-banning. Cool heads have prevailed. For now.

          But I still gotta diversify just in case of an instance-ban. As every socialist-anarchist should!

          If you block me, that's fine—it's not an issue for me. But I don’t use these names to evade anything.

          But of course, I hope you don't block me before I have a chance to answer your question:

          I'm not pro-Israel or pro-Gaza. I’m pro-US workers. Just like you supported Harris even though you didn't agree with everything she did, I didn’t necessarily support everything that Fruit did.

          But I do support her efforts and the efforts of the SWP when it comes to labor here in the US.

          To be honest, and I don’t care how upset Lemmy gets about it, my life doesn’t revolve around the Middle East or Russia/Ukraine. We have enough problems locally, and that’s where I focus my attention.

          Those other issues are serious, of course, but they aren’t something I dwell on. People's views on them don’t sway me one way or the other.

          I support pro-labor union, pro-worker candidates every time, just as I always said I would.

          I'm also anti-censorship, and yes, I saw that you jumped in and commented on the recent "Let's ban Universal Monk" thread from a few days ago. I also read where you think I'm mentally ill. LMAO.

          However, calling me mentally ill just because I post frequently and share content you don’t approve of does a disservice to people who are truly struggling with mental health. I worked as a teacher's aide for several years before retiring a month ago, and I worked with children who were genuinely mentally unwell.

          I respect your right to have your opinions, but you are very, very wrong to label me as mentally ill just because of what I post on Lemmy. :)

          And for the record, MANY of the things I said about the Biden/Harris and Trump capitalist duopoly are now being repeated all the time in c/politics on .world. I was saying the same thing, and the community thought I lived in Russia or was a bot. Remember?

          A lot of the things people are saying there now would have gotten them banned before the election.

          Funny how just a few months and an election changes attitude, heh?

          One thing before you block me though, I do appreciate you standing against the crowd and saying I was a real person. I have no fucking idea why people thought I was a bot just because I didn't back down from the bs. But hey, you always pointed out that you thought I was a real guy here in the US. (But you would always add "mentally ill" to that disclaimer! lol)

          Thanks, friend!

          • I’m happy to answer any questions you have, but I need to point out that I haven’t “evaded” anything. I simply use different names on other instances.

            Because you got banned on the first one.

            This is my issue with you: Even when you're pretending to be polite, you're disrespecting the people you're talking to. You're wildly mischaracterizing important things into different things. Getting banned, and then making a bunch of accounts on new instances saying "Despite the attempts to silence me, I’m still here" is evading the ban. Using different names on other instances without that ban or with a change in behavior would be something else, and perfectly fine, of course. You also mischaracterized my issue with you, which I was pretty clear about in the comments you said you saw. I quoted mod logs of you violating the rules with incredible aggressiveness, pissing off almost everyone, and posting unhinged messages to people. That's the problem, not that you support third parties. It's nothing to do with "censorship" or "free speech," but it's perfectly your MO that you will say "calling me mentally ill just because I post frequently and share content you don’t approve of" to pretend that the issue is something other than what I explained that it is.

            You probably saw where I acknowledged that probably I shouldn't speculate about mental illness, I apologize for that. It's true I have no idea. A lot of your postings and the sheer magnitude of them sound sincerely unhinged, or at least they did before you got instance-banned and came back with a friendlier approach. Honestly, if it was a sincere friendlier approach, I don't think I would have any kind of issue welcoming you back. Like, "Hey, I still believe in this thing I'm saying, but I do want to promote it in ways that are respectful of the community while still being straight about what I want to promote, let's talk about how to do that." It's all good, man. But you're still trying to engineer ways around the rules, still posting ragebait like "transracial" and content from Fox News and Breitbart, while still pretending to be super-friendly and not understand what the issue is or was in the first place. If that's just a pretense to amuse yourself, I think it's fair to ban you for it, because that's trolling. If it's just who you are, which I think is a real possibility, then I think for your own sake you should grow out of it and start being real with people instead. And definitely, you should start to respect people's consent to the interaction you're having with them, instead of deciding you have the right to evade their attempts to have their boundaries respected, to any extent you can get away with. That's the real issue that leads people to care about this trivial-seeming issue so much. It's nothing to do with third parties or any of your professed beliefs. If you decided to do those things, people wouldn't be so hostile to you, and also, any viewpoint you do want to say would certainly have a better reception, instead of a backlash that leads people to attack anyone promoting third parties as a Russian bot or what-have-you.

            I don't know why I went into so much depth about this, it is probably offtopic here. But, you're the one who chose to come in and reply to my comment, when I'd taken steps to block you, so here we are talking about it and why I think you should be banned. You have 15 different accounts, by my count, so it would take significant time for me to sort out where they all are and block you on each and every one, so I'm stuck now with just explaining to you and anyone else reading what the issue is that leads me to think that, yes, you should be banned, for as long as this is your MO.

            I don't really have any ill will either, I just think that for as long as this is your way of interacting, I don't want to be a part of it.

            • Because you got banned on the first one.

              Yeah, I have never denied that. I was banned on one instance so I branched out to different instances. I decentralized just as the fediverse is.

              Getting banned, and then making a bunch of accounts on new instances saying “Despite the attempts to silence me, I’m still here” is evading the ban.

              I disagree. Evading a ban is coming up with a DIFFERENT user name, then going into places I was banned from and continuing to post. I have never posted on .world since the ban. And since i have the same username it would be instantly found out.

              By me keeping the same username across instances, I'm being transparent. It would be very easy to just pick a new name, and go back on .world and post. That would be ban evading, which I don't do.

              Me posting on another instance isn't a ban evade by any definition. Admins agree.

              I quoted mod logs of you violating the rules with incredible aggressiveness, pissing off almost everyone, and posting unhinged messages to people.

              Nope. You have pissed people off, does that make you a troll? I never posted any unhinged messages. Please quote one in this thread. I wanna see. I haven't change how I posted or reply at all since the .world thing.

              till posting ragebait like “transracial” and content from Fox News and Breitbart

              "Ragebait" is posting something to piss people off on purpose. I don't do that. I post whatever I find interesting, regardless of source, and I follow rules of the communities. And when I don't, they remove in. I recently had a community say my source wasn't good enough and gaveme a list of sources that they thought were acceptable. So now I only post from those sources.

              Not everyone hates Fox News and Brietbart. You do, and that's perfectly fine. If you modded a community, I wouldn't post from those sources. But those sources are not outlawed in the US or the earth or Lemmy. Even if you wish they were.

              A lot of your postings and the sheer magnitude of them sound sincerely unhinged,

              Please provide a sample of what you think was unhinged. I'm not being a dick, I honestly want to see what you think is unhinged. I stand by everything I said. And in fact, send people links to my previous conversations when I don't want to repeat the same thing.

              came back with a friendlier approach

              I haven't changed my tone at all, nor do/did I see a reason to.

              because that’s trolling.

              Trolling is saying things just TO piss people off, not saying things that happen to piss people off.

              But, you’re the one who chose to come in and reply to my comment, when I’d taken steps to block you,

              It's not my job to find out if someone has blocked me or not. I didn't even know you blocked me until you mentioned it at the start of this conversation by saying the variation of "in spite of my attempts to block you.."

              Not only that, I was agreeing with your comment when I replied.

              It seems to me now matter how or what I reply, you are determined to think I have some ulterior motive here. So before you block me, I would really like you to just say what that is.

              Don't be vague, and say "on you like to annoy people." I feel that under the service you actually think my MO is something specific and sinister. If you feel that would break this subs rules, feel free to DM me.

              But I am really, honestly curious what you think my goal is. People mentioned before that by me saying I supported third-parites it was to "throw the election." Tho even if every single person that voted third-party would have voted for Harris, she still would have lost since the margin was so big.

              I'm very curious of what you think my motive is. Or maybe it is just that you think I'm here to annoy. Or maybe you won't answer because you've blocked me.

              To your point, this is probably off-topic for this community anyway.

              Either way, best of luck to ya, mate! It's just Lemmy, man... :)

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