Got bombarded with hate when I said a solution to Nazis isnt to kill Nazis lol the left are just as unhinged as the right. Most Americans are mentally ill because they can't afford to see a therapist.
The united states has the largest prisoner population in the world, wherein slave labor is legal and people are forced to work for pittances. The population of the US prisons is outsizedly black, latino and other minority groups. These work-camps have a high rate of death, as well as abuse.
Ah damn I didn't know we were doing vibes-based facts, my bad. I feel as though the united states has the largest prisoner population in the world, wherein slave labor is legal and people are forced to work for pittances. The population of the US prisons is outsizedly black, latino and other minority groups. These work-camps have a high rate of death, as well as abuse.
Sounds like the United States is a third world country with a bunch of issues that they project onto the rest of the world which they seem to think they're the center of.
Your point was that there were no camps, and I've now illustrated how there is. If you need another examples you can also look towards the Moria Refugee camp. It is odd to me how you keep retreating to "it's not about the US". What is it about then?
You're hilarious, glossing over the 2nd half of that comment with some sort of gotcha, I absolutely love it. Are you denying this is the least racist and most peaceful time period in history?
Thank you for failing to provide anything of value, and thus fulfilling my expectations. I hope you recall this encounter the next time you feel self-assured about your ideology and ask yourself why you failed to answer a simple question.
The person who assumes the nationality of their interlocutors, despite clear evidence to the contrary, and who assumes, despite all readily available evidence in linked articles, that Atomwaffen and The Base are purely-US phenomena is objecting to the fact that I assumed that they typed out a written comment.
You really don't have any capacity for humility, do you?
Can't get whiplash if your head is empty *taps forehead*
The poste is about the Nazis - the people that made use of concentration camps in order to perpetrate q genocide. How is this not relevant to a discussion about nazis?
American History X is probably not the best de-Nazifying material but I do agree that in a perfect world, forcibly reeducating them is a more ideal solution, and in certain situations maiming or even just punching can work as a short-term solution.
It's not so much about hate as it is about defending ourselves and protecting the people who their continued existence is a constant threat towards. Though the hate doesn't hurt.
Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting for a perfect solution. In the meantime, Bash The Fash
If people are organising and doing direct action in their irl lives, they sure as hell aren't going to be bragging about it online to impress a pearl-clutching lib who disapproves of direct action because "hate perpetuates hate".
Just because you aren't personally doing anything about the threat of fascists and just because you find the American History X message to be poignant and compelling doesn't mean that this applies universally to everyone else in the world. You're just telling on yourself by adopting this attitude, at least to the people who are engaged in activism.
One: get your head out of your arse and maybe, just maybe figure out that your US-centric outlook might be quickly disproved by the fact that my language is a strong indication that I am not a yank.
Two:
Are you illiterate or do you just dismiss evidence out of hand because you assume everything comes from and is about the US reflexively because you are so US-centric in your outlook?
This is where you should feel ashamed of yourself but I'm not convinced that you actually have the capacity for humility given the fact that you're talking out your arse and you assume that you know enough about The Base and Atomwaffen that you don't need to read the Wikipedia entries on them.
maybe make them watch American History X or something
Hahahahahahaha okay now I’m convinced this must be a bit. Nothing like some ed Norton to cure racism. Why not make them watch 21 Jump Street, after all it cured Kanye of antisemitism
Someone was asking us yesterday why we hate liberals, this response right here encapsulates just about every reason we hate liberals
You're suggesting rounding them up for re-education. We suggest that all the time, and yet when we suggest it you call us monsters.
The time for re-education was 10 years ago though. There are far too many fascists now and they are embedded in far too many institutions, the inevitable outcome is already decided and the only pathway out down the line will be violent.
Well we'd hope the solution for Nazis is we only threaten to kill them first, before they get powerful enough to start organizing. And if they surrender and submit peacefully to re-education, maybe that's ok in some rare instances
If they're already organized I suggest cluster munitions or have them lined up against a nice brick wall
"Well what if it was actually something different huh? Didn't think about that, did ya?" )
Being a nazi, as opposed to black or jewish, is an ideological choice and not a question of race. That choice is a choice were you decide to pursue violent means in order to exterminate those of other races. Do you think a person pursuing genocide should be stopped? If you do, what do you propose should happen when they oppose being stopped?
If you grew up in a racist household and that's all you knew, is that still your fault? I'm genuinely asking what you think about a child that's been indoctrinated into that lifestyle.
i mean it's basically a trolley problem. whether or not we blame someone who was born into naziism, at some point we have to stop them before they hurt others. and if the nazis are armed and organized, we start running out of peaceful ways to stop them.
It's not that persons fault at all, but I think you're making a mistake here in making a systemic question into an individual. We can recognize that no person is inherently "evil" (though I hate to use that word, I'm just lacking for words), but also recognize that the person is a member of an ideological group that is, and as long as the person is a member of said group, they're opposed due to the fact that they are working towards genociding minorities.
I will respond to you with what I said to another person regarding whether we should have sympathy for southern slaveowners
And yeah maybe they were raised that way, propagandized that way, never had a chance to form differing opinions - I don’t care. At one point they were upholding slavery and maintaining it, and I’m not going to be gentle with them while Black people were being worked to death, killed, beaten, and kept in bondage through their actions.
No one is born a nazi. You choose to be a nazi because you're a hateful bigot and you can choose to stop being a nazi. Saying it's wrong to punish/forcefully reform nazis is like saying it's wrong to punish child predators
I love how you all hide behind whataboutism, you all have the exact same reaction which is absolutely hilarious to me. It's all choreographed like a certain "group" y'all hate 😭
You're talking about the Nazis which were the people that perpetrated the holocaust. We think it was good to use violence, you seem to think otherwise. What did you think should've been done to stop the holocaust?
You're talking about the Nazis. Your post was about nazis, people are responding talking about nazis. The discussion is clearly about nazis, which comes as a result of you framing the discussion about nazis. If you didn't want it to be about nazis, but I stead your perception that leftists label political opponents "nazi" as a way to otherize them and justify political violence, then you should've argued that point instead.
Do better, learn what words mean.
Why would you feel threatened about violence against nazis?
And again: Do you think we shouldn't have fought the Nazis? You still won't answer the question
Oh I'm absolutely defending Nazis here, I'm glad your reading comprehension is on point. I'm sure because I had a different opinion than you, I'm a nazi, correct?
You’re doing the dumb liberal thing where you say you “oppose” fascism, but when the Nazis are at the door you’re yelling “oh no please don’t be mean to the Nazis!” because of some weird civility fetish
😭😭😭 I'm dead y'all Americans are way too fucking much. Absolutely incredible the mental illness that festers when you let it go untreated too long, do you people even go outside? What Nazis? We are living in the most peaceful, least racist time period of history 😂😂
I’m honestly extremely jealous of you. Like, I have to admit it. This degree of ignorance must truly be a level of blissfulness that I cannot even imagine. I honestly think that’s what it comes down to, we’re all just jealous of your ignorance
The left right comparison is stupid, I dont believe in the death penalty but people like you usually don't understand that you can't fight intolerance with tolerance and that's plain stupid!
There were all kinds of opinions in that discussion and only a tiny minority or only the op held this point of view (which was called for being unpopular). I hope my assumptions aren't off.