If you have to take your best guess, when do you think that the socialist revolution will happen in the USA? Please explain the reasoning behind your guess.
If you have to take your best guess, when do you think that the socialist revolution will happen in the USA? Please explain the reasoning behind your guess.
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It wont happen with the US in its current form. Climate change is absolutely the only hope now. Ideals such as American exceptionalism are key parts that can't be changed. American democracy is very close to a real religion and its not subject to external pressure from other countries or cultures.
The only way forward is destroying the very fabric of American life, ideals and society in a way that forces specially the younger generation to realize they must change the world otherwise they'll die rather soon. However even that is of questionable hope, younger generations are already disillusioned today. Everyone already understands they'll never own a home or even retire. Humanity as a whole is already behaving like frogs in the boiling water. Everyone knows of the disaster or realize something is going wrong, everyone is unhappy and miserable, yet there is no alternative, ever.
Sadly though we only have a few years left, none of this will actualy happen anyway because people will think of the shortest path to survival. Ecofascism and expansion of American influence while everyone else gets crushed or do their own little bit of carving up the global south for themselves(BRICS is somewhat like this).
So I'd say it wont ever happen, but if it could happen, climate change seems like the only real strong enough force to change American society to the core. However even assuming that I also can't jump to wishful thinking that humanity will survive climate change and we will emerge as communists as a result, rather the opposite realy so idk.
or do their own little bit of carving up the global south for themselves(BRICS is somewhat like this)
I'd like to see your investigation for this assertion
Respecfully, were you sleeping under a rock when Brazil single handedly fucked Venezuela out of BRICS like 2 weeks ago? Are you not aware just how fascist Modi's India has become for years now? Seriously? They literally had a border dispute recently. Modi/India is well known for its desire to play both sides with US/China.
CGTN is currently bashing every single ML out there with piece of trash like this? Bringing us liberal some economics understander to bash us on the head telling us exactly why the party wont fight the US and even why its a consensus that "globalization"(liberal mainstream term for US imperialism) is good for them.
Q: China has definitely said that China's goal of having a healthy stable and sustainable relationship will not change China has said its principles of mutual respect, of peaceful coexistence and will cooporation will not change.
A:I myself also agree with that for several reasons first the biggest reason is China do I think inside China we do have some kind of consensus like globalization is good for China I think majority Chinese agree with this uh it's of course it has its disadvantage the dark side but generally speaking it's good... we may argue for different approach but generally globalization and also constructive China-US relations and also of course uh constructive China-Europe
Q:Why is President Xi still being so calm and respectful having heard having seen what the US did suppressing China's high tech for instance you know selling weapons to to Taiwan these are red lines but why is China still saying this relationship has been stable on the whole?
A:I think the the problems you mentioned are basically part of maybe one part or two parts of China us relations. China-US relations is very comprehensive one so what I'm talking about the supportive attitude to China us relations is the general assertion I will say we agree we support that and that there is a consensus I think there China is not divided on those issues so this is very important reason.
Are we at the point we need Xi to shake hands with Trump? Is Biden not enough? Twice in a year even?
The party wants us to know very explicitly that everyone is happy nodding along with US imperialism because it benefits them. Why is the state TV bringing liberal academics to tell us globalization is good for China? That good US-EU-China relations is good?
Because they want you to know this is not a debate or an ideological crisis, its a consensus.
As long as we believe in a magical world of friendship and cooperation we can pretend Imperialism doesn't exist or Communism is not fundamentaly opposed to capitalism in all forms and most importantly we can deny what being a communist is even supposed to be about.
Communism was definitely never about cooperating with everyone, specialy those of anti-revolutionary/reactionary tendencies at the same time specialy when you say the quiet part out loud that its because its working out for us. Dengism took "improve material conditions" as a complete distortion of what is just a mere observation of the requirements for socialism(not even the only one) as a religious mantra that justifies cooperation with exactly the same anti-revolutionary and reactionary forces communists have struggled against since the beginning.
As a result BRICS will not fight the US directly, Brazil will inevitably fuck with Latin America(praise Lula and Haddad's neoliberal crushing of the brazilian working class, the left was already crushed in the elections last month) as it has been historically the biggest US vassal there. Indian fascism will continue to flourish etc.
Likewise please understand a significant part of Russian conservatives see MAGA as their ally and/or Trump as a potentially better for them. The world is inherently moving towards the right. Russia is an example of this. Everyone should be careful of the illusion Putin learned anything at all and in any case there is no "leftist" Russia anyway, its wrong ideology and the wrong leadership struggling against the US somehow coinciding with the correct choice. For years since 2014 the same Putin did nothing and let the Nazis do their shit.
Likewise I already talked about Chinese disastrous approach to the ME, in the past trying to cozy with Israel and right now they're doing business and selling weapons to Saudi Arabia. There is no anti-imperialist line that intersects with supporting both Israel and Saudi Arabia in less than a decade period. Least so during a genocide of this proportion. Its insane to me.
IMO the 2022 sanctions blowback narrative created this huge BRICS grifter shit in the west that even I admit I believed in it, I wrote and supported it back then because yes its absolutely true for a moment it China was aggressive and willing to do its own thing. That is history for now though.
ReSpEcTfUlLy, I'm trying to cling to anything that keeps me from succumbing to sub-suicidal adventurism; cause I don't trust y'all crackers either. In fact I'd still sooner trust the Chinese or Russians before anyone out the West. What's your solution then? You've got a whole lot of stones to throw, let's hear what you'd build.
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