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First and foremost, this isn't a 1000 year war. It's a bit over 100 years at most. The colonization of Palestine started around 100 years ago. Israel was founded in 1948.
Secondly, Kamala isn't working towards achieving shit. Her government is literally still sending weapons to Israel as Israel is shooting at UN peacekeepers, burning people alive, attacking five different countries, and much more worse.
The jews had been subjugated by the ottomans well before the 1900s, even after as well. The 29 massacure sucessfully genocided (formal definition) The Jewish population that had lived in that city for literally 1000s of years. There are no Jews left in Hebron, despite being 15% of its population in the 20s.
Denying this shit has been going on for a 1000 years denies history.
The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.
and the palestinians are not the ottomans, for that matter
No, but there were Jews in that area. And even more Jews all over the peninsula.
How many of them were Israeli?
They were Old Yishv, they were part of the foundation of Israel.
Are they the same as the Yishuv who collaborated with the Nazis?
Unironically I've heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I'm going to assume you know what demographic they're from, and that that's not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don't agree with nazis
So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven't voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.
I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I'm not the one who conflated "indigenous" Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I'm a zionist that's laughable, I just know the history of the region
You're really going out of your way to inject irrelevant historical context into a discussion that doesn't really require it which is a pretty typical Hasbarist tactic for muddying the waters of discourse around Israel. If you're not a Zionist you're doing their work for them.
Just read your own comment back to yourself, painting me as a bad guy for conflating one group of Jews with another when my original problem with your comment was you doing the exact same thing. I didn't sincerely draw that comparison, I asked if you considered them the same people to illustrate the problem with this kind of conflation, but it seems to have completely flown over your head.
There are still indigenous Palestinian Jews in Palestine (and some are still anti-Zionist), and the “non-Jewish” Palestinians are for the most part simply the descendants of Palestinians who at some point converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam.
“Land without a people” my ass.
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that was 15% of the population of Hebron (4th largest city in Palistine at that moment) at the time, you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s
but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence.
blatant denial of history, they were driven out again in 31 and 36, and the British were the ones who killed the vast majority of Arabs.
you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s
So if there's land that is not immediately occupied, that means it's finders keepers?
I agree. Those who care about Palestine should vote for Kamala because Trump is fully pro-genocide; but implying that Kamala has a valid plan, or even an existing plan, to help Palestinians, is untrue. She's going to do nothing or as little as possible.
The choice is between evil and more of the same, it's not between good and evil.
Religious wars between Jews and Muslims have been going on for much longer than that.
This is just its latest version