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Kinda weird how sometimes he was debating the moderators instead of Harris. Of course, only fact checking Trump was expected.
But all in all, both are shit choices.
It seems like a compromise could have been that he not lie claiming immigrants are eating dogs and doctors are killing babies after birth.
*Doctors are letting babies who survived abortions die after birth.
You guys are really slamming back the Kool-Aid.
Providing proof that an incident happened, multiple times, is drinking kool-aid? Sounds more like someone had their head in the sand and would rather ignore these disturbing acts.
Reading a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet and uncritically believing everything in it is drinking Kool-Aid, yes. "Disturbing acts" like proving an unviable fetus with the same terminal care a human would receive, oh no.
It is unconscionable that regressives want to use unwilling women for medical equipment or prevent willing women with unviable fetuses from receiving lifesaving medical care. Those are the disturbing acts.
Reading a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet and uncritically believing everything in it is drinking Kool-Aid, yes.
Are you disputing the Minnesota Department of Health report?
“Disturbing acts” like proving an unviable fetus with the same terminal care a human would receive, oh no.
Strange you seemed to miss the reports that showed some babies were left to die with no care.
I'm disputing Daily Signal, no point in reading it. If you have MDH reports you could link that directly.
"Babies," "left to die," with "no care." Kool-Aid.
Meanwhile you want policies to force unwilling people into slavery carrying a fetus. That's pretty rape-y, but your leader is a rapist, so no surprise there.
What is surprising is you are whining about being left to die with no care but fully supporting people who want to give birth instead bleeding out because they are refused medical care.
I’m disputing Daily Signal, no point in reading it. If you have MDH reports you could link that directly.
You're disputing it but provide no evidence that there are falsehoods.
“Babies,” “left to die,” with “no care.” Kool-Aid.
Just because it's troubling for you doesn't make it less true.
Meanwhile you want policies to force unwilling people into slavery carrying a fetus. That’s pretty rape-y, but your leader is a rapist, so no surprise there.
Keeping working those straw man arguments. I have said nothing on my opnion of abortion or what I want. Leaving a baby to die is a horrible act, do you find it acceptable?
What is surprising is you are whining about being left to die with no care but fully supporting people who want to give birth instead bleeding out because they are refused medical care.
Nice try at another straw man. Where in the US are abortions illegal if the life of the mother is threatened?
It's a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet. We don't need additional evidence. You need evidence from a credible source. There is no worthwhile discussion to have if you are drinking Kool-Aid from a propaganda outlet.
I thought you were going to link to the government's actual records as a source? What happened there? Oh, does it not support whatever fictitious claims your propaganda outlet is making?
Talk about strawman. You keep writing "babies." Disingenuous. Do these fetuses even have brain activity? Link to the official records, let's discuss things that actually happened instead of your propaganda outlet's fever dreams.
Where is it illegal to save someone's life? Texas, for one.
You are supporting a rapist and supporting the rape-y behavior of forcing women into medical slavery. You also enjoy helping child rapists abuse children by forcing them to continue victimization, like in Ohio. This is very disgusting and disturbing.
It’s a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet. We don’t need additional evidence. You need evidence from a credible source. There is no worthwhile discussion to have if you are drinking Kool-Aid from a propaganda outlet.
This logical falicacy is called ad hominem. You don't have any evidence that the claims are untrue or have even disputed the claims.
I thought you were going to link to the government’s actual records as a source? What happened there? Oh, does it not support whatever fictitious claims your propaganda outlet is making?
Now I have to provide additional evidence because you think there might be a possibility that the claims in the article may be false. How about you provide evidence that they are false.
Talk about strawman. You keep writing “babies.” Disingenuous. Do these fetuses even have brain activity? Link to the official records, let’s discuss things that actually happened instead of your propaganda outlet’s fever dreams.
You're just as bad with your logical fallacies as you are with science. Per the article, whose claims you have not refuted, the babies were out of the womb, do you think babies can be fetuses after they have been born?
Where is it illegal to save someone’s life? Texas, for one.
Did you RTFA her life was not in danger. She had the risk of developing gestational diabetes, that's it. Her own doctor never claimed there was a risk to her life.
You are supporting a rapist and supporting the rape-y behavior of forcing women into medical slavery. You also enjoy helping child rapists abuse children by forcing them to continue victimization, like in Ohio. This is very disgusting and disturbing.
More crazy rantings from a person who is in favor of infiantcide.
we can fact check Harris, i mean if Harris made any bold lies we could then say it was unfair?
and considering the stupidity of that lie about eating pets and how he got it from tv should we leave it up there to be perpetuated. anyway i will leave you with something from our conservative hero, facts dont care about your feelings :PKamala lied about so much. It was insane. Yet they never called her out on it.
No real policy. Just stupid statements backed by lies. I’m just a middle class girl. lol. No, no you were not.
I am impressed she didn’t cackle even once.
can you list a few lies in the debate from Harris? not that i don't believe you. just haven't followed her enough to scrutinize.
Sure Donald Trump has filed bankruptcy six times. That’s false. Donald Trump had filed bankruptcy zero times. The fine people comment was false. She denied wanting to defund the police. She denied her stance on fracking. She was full of shit the whole night.
Ironically I support her real stance on fracking. It’s an important issue to me. Fracking is a horrible practice that needs to stop
Well if we allow for "Donald Trump" to also include his businesses, which he proudly indicates he has direct leadership in...
Bankruptcy is a legal matter. Either a person files or they don’t.
I also wouldn’t shame someone for filing.
Much less would I shame a business person for filing against their business if needed.
Sure Kamala has never filed a BK on a business but she’s never ran a business. She’s never created jobs.
Dislike Trump all you want but has created thousands of jobs. Kamala zero.
The statement is true, per the specifications I allowed. I never indicated any value assessment as you focused on. That's not the point
Edit, to address the goalpost move: as a DA she certainly would have been in charge of staffing an office and had many humans in jobs. More than zero. So that's not true
She didn’t create those jobs. she didn’t run a p/l. The money didn’t come from her but from the state of California or the county depending on which job she did. The tax payers paid for those jobs.
Her office would have designated the need for positions and filled them. They would have had a budget and worked within it to staff.
Another goalpost move on p/l.
No goal post as been moved. She did not create jobs. She’s never run a business. She proudly proclaimed she’s always been on the government teat.
I prefer someone who actually creates jobs
My original involvement was to fact check the bankruptcy claim, not discuss the value or issues with bankruptcy. The goal posts were moved to bring up Harris being a long time government employee. I spent replies discussing how.the differences are largely semantic, but that's literally besides my original point, and you are free to have your opinion on government work, because it's not what I'm here for anyway.
Trump, as leader of his businesses, DID file bankruptcies, as the article describes.
it came off to me that her opinion had changed on fracking, being a politician in America is not won through honesty. inverters must see you as profitable, money is in oil. i have heard Donaald has filed bankruptcy i had to make sure and looked it up i'd like to see your source on this.
He has had companies filed bankruptcy. He has never filed. The two are not the same.
If she had take the anti-fracking stance. I’d make me strongly consider my vote. Fracking taints the ground water. To me that’s just stupid.
For a politician to take the stance of anti fracking would be political suicide. Thanks to Republicans money is speech , its become an incestuous game.
Would you say Harris's lie is as bold as trumps? One is splitting hairs the other is a fairy tail that is made to create division.
Not really; most Democrats would support a ban on fracking. At this point, never Trumpers would support the ban to stop Trump.
While I strongly dislike Harris, having clean water is important to me. Once you have contaminated the ground water, you are left with few options.
I think your missing the point, we're talking about Harris being a liar. And I am asking even though I don't see her flip as a lie. But for the sake of of it we'll say she's lying. Is her lie as bold as trumps?
Anyway CNN did a great job combing through the debate and fact checking here's an article/video about it
Trying to say which lie is more bold is a tad weird. A lie is a lie. Which lie do you think was more bold than Trump's?
Kamala lied about US troops being in combat. THey still are. Isn't that a pretty bold lie? We have people risking their lives and she is dismissing it?
I don't know too much about the troops in America, maybe they are all out or none or a few, statically incorrect I can forgive with margins of error.
Putting out facebook hit pieces strongly tide to polarisation I expect to hear from my boomer parents is ridiculous. This man is running to be the most powerful man in america and he can't disseminate truth from fiction from such an incredibly flawed source. I wonder what kind of sourcing does he do in his day to day for the rest of his information.