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It’s also possible that some women simply want privacy and a calm, quiet environment to feed their baby, or pump breast milk.
Yeah as a dumb ass man I didn't even consider that.
That was a noble shift in opinion.
As a fellow dumb ass man, I understand completely
Also, maybe things like a table, a mirrors, plugs, a microwave, etc. Doing this at your office desk isn’t exactly convenient.
These rooms are more than just a door. They have tables, microwaves, mirrors, outlets and a number of other things that make feeding and pumping easier.
Also, even in pretty progressive places, a lot of people just want some alone time and a dedicated place to deal with a kid or a clunky pump.
I didn't know that. Thank you.
Sometimes they are like that.
Sometimes they are a closet with a dirty diaper can that isn't emptied frequently. Delightful.
Yeah, shitty places in the US do the bare minimum that the law requires. A door, a sink, and a chair.
As someone who is not familiar with breast milk pumping... what is the microwave for?
Sterilizing equipment, heating a bottle, or just heating up lunch so you can kill two birds with one stone.
I have galactorrhea, pumping rooms aren't a natural maternal family matter, for me, it's a medical procedure.
Privacy is a lactating person's choice, and right. public feeding is a choice that I agree needs to be destigmatised. Personally I'm not comfortable with public pumping, because I see my breast milk as medical not nutritional, so I choose privacy for myself.
It's also difficult, it's stressful, it's uncomfortable. Having comfort, focus, peace and quiet, it's important.
I don't even have a uterus, so getting my leaky chest out in public is even further from being socially acceptable. I've lost count of how many times I've had mastitis because I have not been able to expell in a timely manner. Partly that was because I was embarrassed by my condition and didn't stand up for myself and my need for access to a pumping room at work, and part of it was because my employers didn't understand my need for a private room, they pointed out that it's never been a problem for mothers in our office to whip a tit out when baby was hungry, and/or that my need was different because the reason I I had breast milk at all was different.
No one gets to expect me to be comfortable with nudity. My breast milk, my choice if I have privacy or not.
I used to do it in the bathroom because I didn't have anywhere else, but that was a gamble, do I let myself get an infection because I'm letting my ducts clog, or do I risk an infection by pumping milk in the toilets.
First sentence: wow I absolutely agree. It's such a shame that mothers have to go back to work so soon after giving birth. We should work toward guaranteeing parental time off for all parents.
Second sentence: yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah... Um.... Nevermind.
Do you think? Whether conservative or religious, a lot of it comes down to sexualizing every aspect of a woman's body, arguing that simply existing as a woman is too much for men to handle, and since men can't be trusted to control themselves, it falls on the woman to hide her body from the men.
We're literally a hop skip and a jump to fucking burqas in Christianity, yet it's far from just the religious conservatives who take part in this (image screamingly relevant).
Holy shit, you said the word woman
Cartoon noises start playing
I think without the literal centuries of religious oppression a lot of these problems wouldn't exist in the 1st place.
Imagine a world where clothing is optional, where a man could kiss another man without any fear, where we weren't scolded CONSTANTLY for natural feelings, natural habits, natural desires .....
Sure predation would still exist, after all we're just animals, but I don't believe that we would have the problems at the same magnitudes that we do today.
No, men bad! Must continue to fail to analyze society because men horny and men fault!
Horny men? Where? WHERE?!
Well overwhelmingly men were and still are in control of some of the largest
oppression machinesreligions in the world.So even though I uNdErStaNd your reply, you're still correct.
No, it's actually wrong and I was sarcastic. Just because a lot of the world is geared behind a patriarchy does not mean it's suddenly OK to scapegoat the complexities of basic sexual attraction on to one gender.
"It's more than the religious that take part in this" does NOT magically mean the social norms were not established by conservative fuckwits who were almost certainly heavily religious in order to protect themselves and keep their position in a patriarchy.
Conservative religions absolutely deserve most of the blame, regardless of which gender sat at the top.
Where do you think the general fetishization comes from? Cultures that demonize the existence of breasts and shapely asses.
What cultures demonize breasts? Conservative religions.
In cultures that do not promote shame over basic sexual attraction, nudity is no big deal. You're trying to put the cart before the horse, which is just... really, really stupid logic.