A viral clip from 2021 shows Donald Trump’s running mate hyping an antidemocratic plan once pushed in Hungary that would give people with children more voting power.
In order to vote, I think American voters should have to pass the same history test that immigrants need to in order to gain citizenship.
edit: This sits at +11 because Americans don't know their history. We already did it to African Americans and it went extremely poorly. That's the point: Pick up a book.
Give that test to everyone. It's just basic reading comprehension with a simple logic question and a simple math question.
My point wasn't that a test is a good thing. It's an incredibly horrible idea.
My point is that the vast majority of Americans know less of their history than their immigrants. And, the vast majority of Americans are now in favor of repeating one mistake or the other because they don't know their history.
My evidence is that my suggestion above is predominantly upvoted.
Bud, that isn't what a straw man is. Like, at all.
And "objective computer analysis" can still be wrong and biased. Look at all the image classifiers that called black people monkeys cause they were trained almost exclusively on images of white people.
You could answer my questions or you could keep trolling up to you.
Also, please do explain how asking you how this test would be automated and objective is a straw man. Do you not understand what a straw man argument is?
Also, stop making this about me. If you want to block me, fine, but I don't care about your expectations of me or what you think is a mistake or poor argument on my part.
Why would I involuntarily defend a position I do not hold because some idiot can't be bothered to use the reading comprehension and social skills I know they have?
please do explain how asking you how this test would be automated and objective is a straw man
Because I don't believe in a test. I've told you twice. But, you're uncharacteristically being a jackass, now even after you've slept on it.
I'll make it about you because you're a valuable member of the community whom I respect, and who's seemingly not meeting their own standards of behavior (based on the past). If you don't like it, block. I'm pretty close.
Actually, I went back and you told me once, which I did miss. The other one was an edit which you somehow expected me to see after I replied to you. And then, even though I missed your claim that it shouldn't happen, you kept arguing for how the test could be implemented.
So I don't think you know what you are arguing for.
And I still don't care about what you think of me or of my value to anyone. First of all because I don't have any value to anyone and secondly because your opinion of me won't change that.
I made no argument for a test. I answered your direct question as to how it could be done fairly.
Reading and comprehension is prerequisite to a good faith response. You skipped half a post then needed to be told twice to read it. It's not my responsibility to coddle you into good faith. I delivered content well within your capacity to understand.
I accept no responsibility for your error. The input was far better than what you usually receive. You just wanted to fight with someone and I was next in line. You're a public figure. We all know your MO.
I've taken and passed practice tests before. A lot of Americans who may be down-voting may remember things like Jim Crow laws and how tests were widely used to disenfranchise voters, particularly non-white or otherwise "the wrong kind of" voters, in the past and it still leaves a bad taste.
It isn't about having a bad taste from the past. Policy like this would further disenfranchise vulnerable populations present day. A barrier for entry like this is going to disproportionately impact lower income folks. Hard to study for a test like this when you're busting your ass at 3 part time jobs trying to make ends meet. That's not even to mention the inequality that exists within the education system between higher and lower income areas to begin with. "Our system failed you, so now you're not qualified to vote. Cheers!"
Three guesses as to who this policy would affect more: white people or people of color?
Some of those same reasons are the reasons voter ID laws as often implemented (i.e. without anyway to ensure that everyone is actually able to get an ID given that it takes documents, time, and money that not everyone can spare) can negatively impact the same portions of the population as well.