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Bulletins and News Discussion from March 3rd to March 9th, 2025 - Austerity And Its Consequences - COTW: Greece

Image is of a crowd protesting in Athens.

Last week, on Friday, hundreds of thousands of Greeks poured into the streets to strike and protest on the second anniversary of the deadliest train crash in Greek history, in which 57 people died when a passenger train collided with a freight train. On this February 28th, public transportation was virtually halted, with train drivers, air traffic controllers, and seafarers taking part in a 24 hour strike - alongside other professions like lawyers, teachers, and doctors.

The train crash is emblematic of the decay of state institutions brought about from austerity being forced on Greece in the aftermath of the 2008 Great Recession, in which the IMF and the EU (particularly Germany) plundered the country and forced privatization. While Greece has somewhat recovered from the dire straits it was in during the early 2010s, the consequences of neoliberalism are very clearly ongoing. Mitsotakis' right-wing government has still not even successfully implemented the necessary safety procedures two years on, and so far, nobody has been convicted nor punished for their role in the accident. The austerity measures were deeply unpopular inside Greece and yet the government did not respond to, or ignored, democratic outcry.

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  • Being a Nazi is not legal in Russia.

    Utkin literally started a state sanctioned PMC. Met with Putin multiple times. Has a literal Untersturmführer tattoo on his collar bones and an SS war eagle on his right breast.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.

    CW: Nazi tattoos.

    • Okay, a better phrasing would be "nazi organizing is not legal in Russia." He was not organizing a nazi group, he was a military leader for a PMC which did Russia's bidding, none of which was Nazi shit. He was a part of the founding team because he is a military guy but there is no evidence he was calling any shots outside of field of battle.

      Wagner being in Syria, Libya, Mali, or Ukraine had nothing to do with advancing Nazi goals. This was a guy who happens to be a Nazi spending his free time killing US backed jihadists (and nazis) for money.

      A single guy being a Nazi who was literally killed by Putin doesn't back up your position that Russia is just teeming with Nazis who are in fact the ones who were "prosecuting the war in 2022 and 2023"

      It also doesn't justify your position that the Ukranian nazi situation isn't as bad as it really is.

      This is literally the NAFO lib brain rot positions on Russia. "Russia is actually the nazis, not ukraine"

    • Utkin

      Utkin? The guy who's been dead since 2023? The same guy the rusians killed along with Prigozhin?

      You have no idea what you're talking about.

      You clearly have no idea what you're talking about since you think he's still alive, lol.

      you're just looking for cheap owns, get out of here, lib.

      • The "You can't be a Nazi in Russia" law was passed in 2002. PMC Wagner was founded in 2014. Do that math for me buddy! I know that Utkin and Prigozhin are dead. That pic with Putin you're responding to was during an Order of Courage commemoration where Utkin received one in 2016.

        You're gonna really stand here and pretend that if I drag out more and more obscure Nazi's and their connections you're gonna listen to me. You're just gonna be brain dead about it because if Ukraine is bad Russia must be good. I've literally listed 2 orgs above that had explicit ties to the government.

        You and plenty of other commenters here are just having fun taking sides.

        Also it's really hilarious Utkin was:

        • An open neo-Nazi
        • Advanced in GRU to LT Colonel
        • Graduated to be given his own PMC literally to wage the Russian side of the proxy war in 2014-2022
        • Over his career got 4 Orders of Courage
        • Then was taken care of in an accident

        If we named him "Danny Duckhouser" and his president was "Barack Obama" and he had the same career you guys would be all over this man as a limited hang out. Or is the Slav brain too small to do these high minded CIA style crimes?

        If you knew anything about the Russian government this forms the same pattern with Nashi and BORN, where the government runs these morons like dogs and then leaves them out in the cold. That's the real "big" difference between Russian and Ukrainian Nazis. Russian Nazis are tools, Ukrainian Nazis have actual agency.

        • you're gonna listen to me.

          I'm just not going to because you're a debatebro, and the ethnic cleansing of civilians, sanctioned by the ukrainian government, is not up for debate, redditor.

          • I'm just not going to because you're a debatebro, and the ethnic cleansing of civilians, sanctioned by the ukrainian government, is not up for debate, redditor.

            Nobody is debating that. I have never denied atrocities in the DNR/LNR. You literally are frothing at the mouth because I called the "anti Ukraine" bad too.

            • It's not that your saying the Russian side is bad(they are) it's that you're saying Nazis and their policies have as much if not more political influence amongst it as the Ukrainian side does which just isn't the case

              • Nazis and their policies have as much if not more political influence amongst it as the Ukrainian side does which just isn't the case

                I have literally said

                If you knew anything about the Russian government this forms the same pattern with Nashi and BORN, where the government runs these morons like dogs and then leaves them out in the cold. That's the real "big" difference between Russian and Ukrainian Nazis. Russian Nazis are tools, Ukrainian Nazis have actual agency.

                For fucks sake, Russia had a nationalist party that had a youth camp contingent that was 150,000 child members strong, it's literally the precursor movement to Rusicm called Nashi. The Ukrainian version of this never punched those numbers, between Plast, PORA, and Azovlagers they barely broke 35k peak. The reason that de-nazification is a lulzy argument is because the Russian government runs Nazis like dogs to cultivate nationalist sentiment and strengthen their base. By the way the Youth Guard of United Russia which serves the same fucking purpose is at 160,000 kids.

                Everyone who came at me literally changed the argument between Azov/Ukrainian Government/Ukrainian military/Ukrainians at large to whatever the fuck stuck in their brain from a breadtube video. I have literally said in this thread that Nazis in Ukraine have a unique position that is inherently undemocratic. Here:

                The outsized influence of Nazis in Ukraine has been because they're effective at hiding behind/within the government and popular sentiment. The reason Ukrainian Nazis are entrenched is because they get bureaucratic positions, they do absolutely terribly in the polls.

                I've been charitable to every fucking argument, and y'all still putting words in my mouth. Nobody wants to make a clear argument, they just want to bullshit and do calipers. The fucking hilarity here is there's 4 comments of back patting each other over a centuries old song in this thread meanwhile if you put Come Out Ye Black and Tans suddenly folk songs about killing people are cool because of "context"! As if historically Ukrainians are the British and the Russians are the Irish which is again a laughable assumption one can only make if they've had their brains fried on ironic geopolitical memes from the 2020's.

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