Ukraine-Russia Megathread 4

Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/

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Posted cautioning about overhyping Ukraine's position. Sourced every claim, specifically called out Russia, have a reddit account that's 10 years old, literally linked a picture of my American passport with a piece of paper for username and date. Results? -60 points, dozens of comments claiming I'm a Russian bot spreading disinformation, people DM'ing me to kill myself. Big reddit moment.
- Every vaguely politically aware westerner on the planet is currently being utterly submerged in propaganda, in a massive mobilization of the media. The best you can do is try to pick off individual people where you can engage in 1 on 1 conversation rather than try to convince a crowd that has been specifically warned for the last few years than anybody taking an adversarial position to any US policy is a bot and are trying to convince you that Putin is actually Jesus and that you must resist their wily arguments and fake sources. Also remember that you're trying to convince the people who read the conversation and are unsure what's going on, not the brainwashed zombies who are replying to you
  
  This is entirely just me nitpicking, but your advice seems to be "go for 1 on 1 conversations, ignore the crowd" and then also "you're not trying to convince people 1 on 1, convince the crowd".
  
  Apologies, my writing gets a bit muddled on the way from my brain to the keyboard. My intent was to: a) first try to talk to any friends you think might be convinceable in 1 on 1 conversations, then b) if engaging in conversations on social media sites, don't try to make your argument against the community as a whole, like "Everybody on reddit/this subreddit is being misled by propaganda, you're all wrong, here's the evidence why" because while you still might convince onlookers that way, it promotes tribal thinking; argue with a specific person on why they're wrong while still putting in the necessary caveats of "Putin is a monster but there's decades of history which explains his actions". Disproving specific points and planting seeds of doubt is usually a good way to go in my experience, being totally opposed to e.g. a friend's ideology will just get you seen as argumentative and an asshole. If they start being outright fash though then start bullying the fuck out of them
- jesus christ. these fucking sacks of shit want dead slavs, nothing else

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